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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:50 am 
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Jbaysurfer wrote:
ConanOBrien wrote:
I've just learned to flip the highbacks down before getting on lifts now

Not a brag post, but I'm sure I've done millions of feet of vertical spinning lifts, and maybe it's a just a personal flaw..but time to time..you forget..or, you flip it down and it hits a strap that oddly flexes and bounces it right back up to vertical.


Sorry I should have been more specific. I'm not actually flipping the highback down every time either. I just do it on the "lower" chairs (which I assume they lowered to accommodate for the ski school). I really only noticed these on Eagle and Schoolyard. I was lapping the progression park via schoolyard express and I'll slap the highback down before getting in line. I agree that it's easy to forget to do so, I didn't think about flipping mine down until it got caught under the chair the first time (but didn't snap, fortunately). But oh well, my fault for riding on the kiddie lifts :D


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I just do it on the "lower" chairs

They're all lower, except Chair 23.

And MMSA stopped providing the required sign that says the height.

ANSI B77.1-2011, Table D-1 Required Signs wrote:
(e) Loading Seat Height __ ± 2 Inches
(the seat height is within a specific height range for use by adaptive skiers)
(In the vicinity of the instructions for the use of the ropeway sign)

They probably threw the signs away when they gave up trying to hold the ± 2 Inches. That's pretty messed up.


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ShiftyRider wrote:
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I just do it on the "lower" chairs

They're all lower, except Chair 23.

And MMSA stopped providing the required sign that says the height.

ANSI B77.1-2011, Table D-1 Required Signs wrote:
(e) Loading Seat Height __ ± 2 Inches
(the seat height is within a specific height range for use by adaptive skiers)
(In the vicinity of the instructions for the use of the ropeway sign)

They probably threw the signs away when they gave up trying to hold the ± 2 Inches. That's pretty messed up.


I saw one of those signs just the other day...

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Excellent, we should all report back if they're making progress since the MMSA Executive read this thread. I'll change the title when everybody chimes in that the problem is fixed.


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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:28 pm 
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I can't believe this topic is still going on. I know, I know, it will go on until "they get it right". I've had my (ski) boots pinched, along with my calf, a few times in the past so I do know it can be a problem. But really, we're still talking about it! (I'm taking cover).


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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:37 pm 
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Rotten wrote:
I can't believe this topic is still going on. I know, I know, it will go on until "they get it right". I've had my (ski) boots pinched, along with my calf, a few times in the past so I do know it can be a problem. But really, we're still talking about it! (I'm taking cover).


You just bumped it pretty effectively LOL! When that boot that gets pinched is on a free (not locked into a binding) leg like half the sliders on the mountain, you might understand that's it's a bit more serious of a danger then just a pinch....not that that doesn't hurt....

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ShiftyRider wrote:
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I just do it on the "lower" chairs

They're all lower, except Chair 23.

And MMSA stopped providing the required sign that says the height.

ANSI B77.1-2011, Table D-1 Required Signs wrote:
(e) Loading Seat Height __ ± 2 Inches
(the seat height is within a specific height range for use by adaptive skiers)
(In the vicinity of the instructions for the use of the ropeway sign)

They probably threw the signs away when they gave up trying to hold the ± 2 Inches. That's pretty messed up.


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 Post subject: "We need more excuses"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:40 pm 
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MtnOps wrote:
[five paragraphs that to a low-paid liftie might seem like wonderful excuses, instead of one or two sentences like "I'm gonna start reading my employees' checklist logs which include seat height, then independently verify that they aren't just writing a made-up number designed to keep me from bugging them."]

ShiftyRider wrote:
I'm [going to measure them myself] and report back once a month LOL.

  • 1: 18"
  • 2: 12
  • 3: 13
  • 5: 15
  • 6: 11*
  • 9: 11
  • 10: ramp was severely unlevel
  • 22: 12
* the liftie told me it's supposed to be 17 or 18"

powderpig wrote:
if it hasn't snowed in 10 days & the chair(s) are still too low, then someone should be held accountable

One would think. And certainly those of us who ski at many many other resorts know it's not a problem.

On the other hand, even if they were all just 1" I'd still try to figure out a way to use the chair instead of walk up the hill. It'd probably be kinda fun LOL.


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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:54 pm 
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They did add alot of new signs telling us how kids need to be loaded on the lifts!!

+1 for MMSA safety!!


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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:58 pm 
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All I know is that almost all of the seats at Mammoth this year are noticeably lower than in recent years. Quite annoying.
But then, my g/f can't touch the exit ramp on 5 at all.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:09 pm 
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snowfiend wrote:
They did add alot of new signs telling us how kids need to be loaded on the lifts!!

That wuz slappy's request.

P.S. If anybody besides cruzer sees a "Height: 18±2" sign at Mammoth (the signs are "required" by ANSI-B77), please post the location here.


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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:11 pm 
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The off ramp on 5 has been chronically low all season from my experience. shorter people are having to jump off of it. I won't take my daughter up it until it's fixed or unless I have my wife flanking her.

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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:11 pm 
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Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
by bombtripper » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:58 pm

Mammoth was once dominated by skiers ...no f’n benches back in the day b’yotches!
what you want the mtn to do next retrofit the chairs so that your baggy pants don't get caught?

Snowboarder kooks!


Going to have to agree with you here.. been snowboarding since 88.. and most snowboarders complain too much
and are totally soft now a days. Bring back Shawn Farmer to teach these young punks a thing or two.

Just ride and stop whining. Has mammoth turned into Mt High North..


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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:17 pm 
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lol June is open. duh


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 Post subject: Re: Seat Height: Mammoth ups the ante on "Doing It Wrong"
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:36 am 
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Anyone remember when Mt. High North was Table Mtn.? Hint: That's pre "Ski Sunrise." The area had what in retrospect was a high-speed Poma aka Poma 3 aka Giant Poma. 2300' x 750' vert in 3 minutes. When you're 9 and well under 100 #, even if your nickname was Little Lord Leadbottom, the lift-up factor when the platter pull clamped onto the cable was a wild ride, to say nothing about the horizontal aspect! Wish I'd taken some movies before the Tramways Board wouldn't certify the lift anymore, it would've made a super funny comedy sequence in a John Jay or Warren Miller ski flick.

The Poma probably flunked because even if the liftie patiently instructed riders to be ready for a serious jolt, it didn't register w/ 75% of the clientele who were new to the lift.

Hopefully folks can access the Poma 3 terrain w/o hassle from the now smaller area that covers the Pomas 1 & 2 terrain. The hike/skin out is definitely worth it for legit 30 degree bowls and tree shots.


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