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 Post subject: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:34 pm 
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Now what?

http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-jerry-brown-declares-drought-emergency-in-california-20140117,0,3244744.story#axzz2qgphIpP8


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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:37 pm 
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the big question is - why did it take moonbeam so long ?

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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:39 pm 
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M2M wrote:
the big question is - why did it take moonbeam so long ?


I think a lot of us have been wondering that for some time.


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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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Maybe he was waiting for the 90 day outlook that came out yesterday.

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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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M2M wrote:
the big question is - why did it take moonbeam so long ?


He actually screwed the pooch when he declared the three year drought over in June of 2010. We had one good year and Jerry blew his wad saying the drought was over, poor guy never came close to seeing the big picture.

Water rate increases are coming next. Just got my notice from Palmdale Water District. They wanted a 10% increase, it's looking like they'll get a 3% increase.


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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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Well maybe that will be enough to jinx the drought and make it rain and snow. We can hope anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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Hopefully, people will move out of Cali.

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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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Hopefully, people will move out of Cali.



Never going to happen Windy. There's more people on the dole in California than works for a living.

and with Assemblyman Ricardo Lara of Bell Gardens introducing legislation that would allow people who are not legal immigrates to get coverage under the Affordable Care Act I don't expect anyone leaving soon.


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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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8 posts into a drought thread and we're moving on to illegal immigrants and the ACA. I'd say that's a record but I'm sure it isn't.


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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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only because this was said
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Hopefully, people will move out of Cali.
The only people moving out of Kalifornia are people who work and own businesses. Those workers & businesses left behind will be paying for those on the dole.

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back to the drought and low flow plumbing fixtures


January 17, 2014 CSLB #14-01
CSLB Clarifies New Law Requiring Replacement of Plumbing Fixtures
Building permits issued for property maintenance and repairs does not trigger new requirements

SACRAMENTO – To dispel confusion over the new state Civil Code law (Senate Bill 407, 2009) that became effective January 1, 2014, for replacement of outdated plumbing fixtures with water-saving models, the Contractors State License Board (CSLB) offers the following clarification for contractors.
The new law requires anyone applying for a building permit that will alter or improve a single-family residence built in 1994 or earlier to replace all plumbing fixtures with water-saving designs. Replacement is a condition of receiving final permit approval from a local building department. The law also requires, by 2019, water-conserving plumbing fixtures in multi-family dwellings or commercial properties when specific renovations are made.
Although not a legal opinion, the California Building Officials (CALBO) group has interpreted “alterations” or “improvements” to mean any construction to an existing structure that enhances or improves the structure. Construction that is related to repairs or maintenance of the structure is not considered to be an alteration or improvement.
Following is a list of permit types that CALBO considers to be repair or maintenance, and do not trigger the requirements of SB 407:
• Electrical service change out <---- I'M ATTEMPTING TO VERIFY IF THIS INCLUDES ADDING SOLAR PANELS
• HVAC change out
• Re-roofing
• Sewer line replacement
• Siding or stucco
• Site work: retaining walls, fences, walkways, etc.
• Water heater replacement
• Window replacement
• Other repairs as determined by the state Building Code

It is feared that property owners and licensed contractors who misunderstand the law may end up paying for new fixtures that are not required, or may avoid pulling building permits altogether to avoid the possible triggers to SB 407.
Since this is not a legal opinion, CSLB encourages licensed contractors to verify requirements with their local building department before taking any action on a project.
For more information on SB 407 requirements, please read CALBO’s Legislative Analysis and the Tri-Chapter Uniform Code Committee guidelines.
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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:33 pm 
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Hopefully, people will move out of Cali.

Who the F is this clown? Let me guess, crazy old hippy who moved to the ES from SoCal in the late 60’s early 70’s and thinks he knows something about everything. Here is a clue crazy Dave///// I WILL have my swimming pool, I WILL have my green lawn, I WILL have my car washed by the 3rd world, I WILL have anything I want in SoCal because I HAVE $$$$.

thanx bye

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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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PE395 wrote:
8 posts into a drought thread and we're moving on to illegal immigrants and the ACA. I'd say that's a record but I'm sure it isn't.

Is that a cue to introduce Hitler to the thread?

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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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Ah yes, Godwin's Law


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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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SkierBob wrote:

...There's more people on the dole in California than works for a living.

...and with Assemblyman Ricardo Lara of Bell Gardens introducing legislation that would allow people who are not legal immigrates to get coverage under the Affordable Care Act I don't expect anyone leaving soon.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik

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 Post subject: Re: It's Official: Brown Declares a Drought!
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PE395 wrote:
Ah yes, Godwin's Law


Ah, PE beat me to it.


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