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Uploading's begun and we luv da mosaic at MidChalet! Will your Ikon Pass have the ShiftyRider photo?
Of course!  29%  [ 2 ]
I would if I thought I could get away with it  29%  [ 2 ]
I hate ShiftyRider  43%  [ 3 ]
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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:18 pm 
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Banner on Mammoth web site says prices go up $100 on May 1st.


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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:39 pm 
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Thanks psg for the clarification. Guess I didn't read through ALL the FAQ's thoroughly enough!

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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N. is not a scam for money for air service.
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 11:23 pm 
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ShiftyRider wrote:
Thank you! From the article...
MMSA’s Eric Clark wrote:
That’s our money, our commitment. We can figure out…how we can spend that money to solve the regional air service problem.
...so when you receive your dining check and it has a line item for TBID do like what Eric and I have been doing these past five years, politely speak to the maître d'...
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That’s my money, my commitment. You can't have it -- I'm only paying for the food, okay? I can figure out how to solve my own transportation, thank you.

Looks like MMSA and MLT have a bit more to worry about now! :o

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PRESS RELEASE

Contact: John Urdi, Mammoth Lakes Tourism
(760) 934-2712 ext. 1259 or jurdi@visitmammoth.com
Follow: Facebook.com/VisitMammoth Twitter.com/VisitMammoth

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Alaska Airlines to Discontinue Air Service to Mammoth Yosemite Airport
New airline partners being sought to replace and expand service

Mammoth Lakes, Calif (May 19, 2018) – On Thursday, May 17th officials from Alaska Airlines informed Mammoth Lakes Tourism that they would be discontinuing air service to Mammoth Yosemite Airport (MMH). Current daily non-stop air service from Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) will continue through November 30, 2018.

Airline officials cited retirement of the Q400 aircraft as well as a nationwide pilot shortage as reasons for ending the service that has been in place for Mammoth Lakes since 2009. Other Alaska Airlines markets impacted by these service cuts include Sun Valley, ID; Bellingham, WA; Pasco, WA; and Eugene, OR.

According to Air Planners CEO Kent Myers; “The pilot shortage is having a major impact on air service across the country.” Myers went on to say, “No domestic airline is escaping the pilot shortage; all the legacy and regional carriers have been impacted.”

Mammoth Lakes Tourism is in discussions with other major airlines to not only replace the discontinued Alaska Airlines service from Los Angeles (LAX) and San Diego (SAN) for winter 2018-19, but to possibly expand into new markets as well.

New winter 2018-19 service announcements will be made as soon as they are finalized.

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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:14 pm 
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^Yikes.

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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:39 am 
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I saw this coming. Alaska Air discontinued the LAX-GUC flight I was taking to get to Crested Butte last year. Don't believe the BS about the retiring of planes or the shortage of pilots. It's the merger stupid. When Alaska bought Virgin cuts were inevitable.


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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:24 am 
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From the BOYCOTT thread...
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"Since the formation of TBID, our enplanements to Mammoth Lakes are down nearly 40 percent, while enplanements in competing resorts are up."

All of the [TBID] money was wasted, some of it not just down to a zero benefit, but a negative benefit. 40% fewer enplanements. Maybe if it was 10M they'd wind up with 80% fewer enplanements.
Oops, make that 100% fewer enplanements.

Sucks to be right cuz if we thought TOML was getting ripped off before, that ain't nothing compared to now. No enplanements and yet there's still a $2M a year "subsidy" from the Hot Creek lawsuit. Wonder if anybody will go to jail over this, cuz how ya gonna renew the TBID with this news? And yet they gotta renew the TBID or it will become clear to everybody that that $2M lawsuit money was kinda the whole point in the first place (which seems illegal due to the "proportional benefit" rules that Improvement Districts are bound to).

Apparently there will still be United flights from SFO (WTF?) come next winter, and there must be somebody somewhere who considers those silly little Burbank charters more significant than my neighbors loading up the minivan LOL. Horizon sure ain't coming back cuz most other places they pulled the Q400s, they switched to 737s (Mammoth hangars get in the way of the 737 wings).


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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 8:44 pm 
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ShiftyRider wrote:
From the BOYCOTT thread...
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"Since the formation of TBID, our enplanements to Mammoth Lakes are down nearly 40 percent, while enplanements in competing resorts are up."

All of the [TBID] money was wasted, some of it not just down to a zero benefit, but a negative benefit. 40% fewer enplanements. Maybe if it was 10M they'd wind up with 80% fewer enplanements.
Oops, make that 100% fewer enplanements.

Sucks to be right cuz if we thought TOML was getting ripped off before, that ain't nothing compared to now. No enplanements and yet there's still a $2M a year "subsidy" from the Hot Creek lawsuit. Wonder if anybody will go to jail over this, cuz how ya gonna renew the TBID with this news? And yet they gotta renew the TBID or it will become clear to everybody that that $2M lawsuit money was kinda the whole point in the first place (which seems illegal due to the "proportional benefit" rules that Improvement Districts are bound to).

Apparently there will still be United flights from SFO (WTF?) come next winter, and there must be somebody somewhere who considers those silly little Burbank charters more significant than my neighbors loading up the minivan LOL. Horizon sure ain't coming back cuz most other places they pulled the Q400s, they switched to 737s (Mammoth hangars get in the way of the 737 wings).


For what it's worth I would prefer flying in the Q400 as it has a considerable greater lift ratio than the 737. takes less runway space and so on.
But nobody see's that. Maybe someone will be buying those Alaska retired Q400's.


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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:40 pm 
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Over New Years I was stuck in Denver because American has no idea how to connect flights anymore. We finally flew back to LB via PHX. DEN-PHX was a full-sized Airbus that American had crammed so many seats into that my legs cramped up when we de-planed. PHX-LGB was a Q400 - it felt downright cushy by comparison - plenty of legroom and no middle seats. I would MUCH rather fly the smaller jets into the smaller airports. Its too bad that's not the direction the airlines are going.


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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:43 pm 
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Anybody ShiftyRider-size avoids Q400s and all RJs -- my shoulders are way too broad to tolerate a fuselage that's curvature kicks in around navel height to say nothing of bathroom ceilings fit for midgets. I fly Southwest cuz they don't have any of that crap.

P.S. Sierrawave tends not to believe MLT LOL so they emailed the airline...
http://www.sierrawave.net/alaska-airlin ... s-release/

BTW MLT mentioned Sun Valley but that's quite a bit different. The route the airline dropped was nonstop from LAX, but they'll still get you there with one stop. Or you'd just fly Delta there.


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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 12:33 am 
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http://thesheetnews.com/wp-content/uplo ... .26.18.pdf

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The initial press releases issued by
Alaska Airlines and Mammoth Lakes
Tourism were striking in their differences.
*Although later The Sheet learned
that what it had received was not an
official press release but an intranet
(internal) corporate communication.
It sounds sexier than it is. No mention
of a grassy knoll.
The most notable difference was in
that Mammoth Lakes Tourism tried
to blame the service cut on a nationwide
pilot shortage.
Alaska spokesperson Bobbie Egan
reacted by saying, “I have no idea
where they got that.”
The quote about the pilot shortage
in MLT’s release came from air service
consultant Kent Myers.
MLT later issued an amended
release which blamed the service cut
on Alaska’s decision to retire the Q400
aircraft.
Former Mammoth Councilmembers
and MLT Board Members
Michael Raimondo and Matthew
Lehman did not believe the initial
MLT press release was an accident.
Rather, they thought it was just another
attempt at deception.
“Its not about an airport in Mammoth
versus Bishop, its about a liar
and a growing lack of trust in our
marketing organization,” said Lehman.

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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:13 am 
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MLT and John lie lie lie... called him out years ago. LOL they even banned me from Visit Mammoth.

Total Tools!

MLT SUCKS :puke:

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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:46 am 
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Thanks everyone for keeping us abreast of the fukkery.

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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
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milesb wrote:
Thanks everyone for keeping us abreast of the fukkery.

Check your inbox ;)


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 Post subject: Re: I.K.O.N.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:05 am 
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New air service OAK-RNO, JetSuiteX

Maybe they can serve Mammoth?

https://www.rgj.com/story/money/busines ... paign=main

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Dunno if yer completely tone deaf, or as Miles sez "keeping us abreast of the fukkery".


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