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Author:  CalvaryMike [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

Does Bishop have enough car rentals/taxis to handle daily commercial flights?

Author:  ShiftyRider [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:29 pm ]
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Ummm, what do you think the huge sign's gonna look like, for ShiftyRider Rent-A-Bus Inc...Image

Author:  6IX [ Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

This is the first season pass that may work for us with the Big Bear - Mammoth - Tahoe connection. At $900 for minimal to no Blackout dates it'll still be a push. :?:

Author:  Washoe Zephyr [ Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

mirrorball wrote:
ShiftyRider wrote:
I predict there will be an inexpensive pass.

If Alterra looks at Vail Resorts' Epic Pass for guidance, there are a lot of discounted options, but they all include either black-out dates or ten-day use max at some of the Vail Resorts - the Epic Local Pass, Epic Local College Pass, Tahoe Local Pass, Tahoe Value Pass, Summit Value Pass, Keystone/A-Basin Pass. They all have some combination of blackout dates and max (10-day) use at select resorts. My son's Epic Local College Pass gives him unlimited use with no blackouts at some resorts (Breckenridge, A-Basin, Keystone), blackout days at some resorts (the Tahoe resorts), and 10-day max usage with blackouts at some resorts (Vail, Beaver Creek, and Whistler).

mirrorball, I think you are in the ballpark...10 days at Mammoth would be a winner for me. Riding the lifts at Alpine yesterday, there was lots of talk of Mammoth by my fellow chair mates. All were in favor of added days at Mammoth.

I am even considering upping my Tahoe Value pass to the full on "Epic" pass. Trying to consolidate season passes....

Author:  PE395 [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

If the Mammoth version of any pass has blackout dates that's going to be a problem.

Author:  my395 [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

ShiftyRider wrote:
They don't divert, they continue to the next stop. There was a thread on here years ago -- some poor schlub was gonna propose atop Mammoth and to do it in style the plan included flyng her up from LAX. They flew over Mammoth in the morning but couldn't land so they continued to San Jose. These two were all "WTF? What do we do now?" and the airline said don't worry it happens all the time, just wait here for several hours cuz we got a scheduled flight to Mammoth from here! You guessed it, that flight couldn't land at Mammoth either so it just continued to its next stop -- LAX.

So the plan is to use Bishop if the weather's too bad in Mammoth. The obstacle is FAA certification, so that will have to happen first. But once it's certified many other possibilities open up, foremost the larger planes that are absolutely necessary to the original air service goal -- nonstops from hubs like Chicago or Dallas. (The truth is stranger than fiction: the hangars at Mammoth were built too close to the freaking runway for anything larger than the 90-some-foot wingspan of the Q400 propeller planes)

Lots of information on progress at the Bishop airport here... ... p-airport/

Author:  boarddad [ Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

Also required in order to accept commercial aircraft is a letter of interest from an airline, which Inyo County received from Allegiant Air earlier this year. In its February 2017 letter, the airline stated it has the resources to connect service with a 156-seat A319 two times a week, initially, from Metropolitan Oakland International Airport, LAX, and Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport, contingent on Bishop Airport meeting the airline’s needs as well as state and federal regulations.

Oh, that's not good. Have you ever flown with Allegiant? I call it the "Ala Carte" airline because EVERYTHING is extra and almost nothing is included in the stated fare (booking tickets, choosing your seat, baggage (both carry on and checked), food, drinks, blankets - ALL extra). My wife calls it the "Leisure" airline, because you need to be on vacation with a VERY flexible schedule in order to account for the wildly varying flight times. True story; we flew Allegiant from Grand Junction to LAX one time on New Year's day. The flight was the first of the day and the plane was at the gate when we got there. We took off hours late because (I kid you not), they could not find the pilot or one of the stewardesses. Strange how they found the two of them at the same time when they finally did arrive :o Happy New Year indeed!

Author:  Grumpy [ Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

boarddad wrote:
Grumpy wrote:
therealme wrote:
It's looking like Bishop Airport is going to be more of a player, making air service easier.

PE395 wrote:


Because Rusty wants out of the TBID

It's a little late for that, isn't it?
Of course if Rusty has found a way to get out of the lousy deal he has now, more power to him - Bishop is really not such a bad option.

It is up for renewal soon and it was his deal to start with. Look at the Hart and Howerton Consulting proposal for how town should be. That will give you a little insight of how and why things are going where they are. Mammoth is done.

Author:  my395 [ Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

A couple of articles in The Sheet show that Mammoth Mountain wants to move air service to Bishop. They will not support renewal of the TBID unless money goes to help support the air service move.

Author:  Grumpy [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

Wait until the prices and options come out for the PASS. It is not going to be a good deal for anyone who lives here or that only wants to ski Mammoth. There will be a few tiers with lots of blackout dates and a very expensive all inclusive.

Author:  Sierra Lady [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

^ If that is the case, I will probably be out for good. :(

Author:  ocboarder [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

If its above $1,000 and it includes multiple black out dates, I'm out.

Author:  SurfnSnowboard [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

Grumpy wrote:
Wait until the prices and options come out for the PASS. It is not going to be a good deal for anyone who lives here or that only wants to ski Mammoth. There will be a few tiers with lots of blackout dates and a very expensive all inclusive.

How could you possibly know that?

Sounds like typical Mammoth doom and gloom.

Author:  yogachik [ Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

Was on the phone with Mountain Collective this morning and asked if they were changing anything for 2018 with this IKON pass coming out - she said that Mountain Collective will be back (early March sale) and stronger than ever. So there's that, anyway.

Author:  oldskier [ Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I.K.O.N.

Bottom Line -IKON will need to compete with EPIC and this isn’t a great season to build the price on. Best snow this year is in Montana, not Colorado, Utah, or California and people from California are not going to travel to the East Coast for snow. So the IKON resorts aren’t working off a good year except for Big Sky. As it is, more people are gravitating to less expensive sports. Friends every year that were excellent skiers are giving it up, and not because of health or injury. Mostly due to hassle, expense, and other sport options.

I’m trying to make the senior pass in a few years but if I get seriously hurt in a collision, I will join them - I’ve been taken out three times by a snowboarder from behind in the last ten years and very lucky each time although one left me pretty bruised when my back fell onto his board. Many close misses from skiers too - makes an old lady rethink her priorities. And I already avoid weekends/crowds.

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